Futures Forum: Neighbourhood Plan >>> and the Port Royal scoping report
Futures Forum: Beach Management Plan: and the future of Alma Bridge
Futures Forum: Plans for Port Royal: anticipating a Regeneration Board >>> ‘Scoping Report for the eastern end of Sidmouth’ >>> commission work initiatied
Futures Forum: Sidmouth Beach Management Plan... Port Royal... Mill St... "The possibility of Mill Street car park becoming a location for social housing is a completely separate matter from the BMP."
Futures Forum: Plans for Port Royal and the Eastern Town >>> >>> architecture competition to re-imagine Port Royal >>> winning design chosen >>>further reports
This has been pointed out in an ongoing thread at the Streetlife social network:
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Mary W-T in Sidmouth
I was pleased to see that The Pier option won the Re-Imagining Port Royal competition, but shocked to read that 300 people had voted on the options.
Is this 300 people voted for this choice or 300 people voted overall? Either way it shows a huge lack of interest in how Sidmouth could develop.
I know some will say 'it is only a bit of fun' :-) but it is really more than that. It was an opportunity to tell our councillors what we would like to see if possible. Just as the consultations on the Beach Management Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan are.
If people don't get out and vote, on every opportunity, then they can't complain about the results.
Let's hope more people have been filling in the simple online form for the Neighbourhood Plan.
Is this 300 people voted for this choice or 300 people voted overall? Either way it shows a huge lack of interest in how Sidmouth could develop.
I know some will say 'it is only a bit of fun' :-) but it is really more than that. It was an opportunity to tell our councillors what we would like to see if possible. Just as the consultations on the Beach Management Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan are.
If people don't get out and vote, on every opportunity, then they can't complain about the results.
Let's hope more people have been filling in the simple online form for the Neighbourhood Plan.
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See also:
Futures Forum: "Regeneration and economic development" in East Devon >>> looking beyond the conventional, the ideological and the heavyhanded
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We were at the Duck Derby today and many people said that they had not received their questionnaire through the letterbox. Perhaps they had, perhaps they hadn't.... the important thing is that you now complete it quickly!
We will keep the online version open for the next week and keep the collection boxes in the various locations in situ until this coming Friday which is extending our original deadline for completion.
There will be another opportunity to express your opinions in the Autumn and I hope that by then a sufficient number of people will know about and understand what the Neighbourhood Plan could do for the Sid Valley. http://www.sidmouth.gov.uk/index.php/neighbourhood-plan
Another neighbour brought one for us and it's been completed.
Not to worry, all sorted now.
Could you put on here the votes for each plan, with the corresponding letter.
Thank you.
Apologies
I am not aware of the Neighbourhood Plan having moved past the consultation stage, what am I missing?
I think Henry Beech Mole or perhaps Councillor Gardner could answer that for you.
I'm sure Deidre is very helpful about things she is involved with but it is above and beyond to expect her to know about things which she isn't :-)
Thank you, I will see if they are available to the public.
How would you suggest these consultations are improved to be less of a 'confusing mess'? And I do agree that often only a minority may voice an opinion. Those that do not, though, can not say that they have not been consulted and asked for their views!
The Neighbourhood Plan is a bit different, seeking the views of Sid Vale Residents on a wide range of issues. The consultative document (still available to fill in online until this Friday) gives each of us the chance to voice our views on a range of issues which affect us now, might affect us in future, and to put forward our ideas for preservation on the one hand and growth and progress on the other, if I might put it that way.
The Port Royal Development program though is a rather special kind of issue all on its own, with so many parties involved. At least thanks to the efforts of those who care the Drill hall hasnt been demolished to make way for the kind of developments we may not want, so we still have a chance to influence what may happen with our public voice. The Architects competition was an example, to my mind, of people of vision coming together to create ideas and put them forward for discussion. I am with Deidre H fully when she suggests that now might be a good time to pull all these threads together for the sake of clarity and cohesion.
BW
Deirdre
Consequently planning falls into the hands of people at the council who want to be money men, constantly talking about market value and maximum profit. That is so wrong on so many levels.
How many years have we been waiting for the BMP? How many years have they let Alma Bridge fall into the current very sad state? How many years is the talking going on about the Drill Hall now?
FYI we are at the Young People's Event this Saturday at Manstone, come an join us! 1.00pm - 4.00pm
http://www.sidmouth.gov.uk/index.php/neighbourhood-plan
Come on Sidmouth, don't just sit and moan, click the link and do something about it!
Remember that old axiom.... Do it Now!
Firstly, I'm just a migrant. I say this now, after well over 10 years of being here and having enjoyed, if I may say so, a rather excellent relationship with people. But I have been asked twice when I would need to leave since this dreadful referendum. The questions were dead serious. Makes you think, doesn't it?
Secondly, ignoring the technicality that I have no voting rights, I have a job to do, and four bambinos to look after. I even spotted Signora Eleganza surfing up what a shed with enough cells for the bambinos might cost somewhere on the continent. In summary, these things are a little more pressing on my mind. So, Neighbourhood Planning is for me more like offering my parking space for visiting friends of my right neighbour, and firing up my BBQ only after my left neighbour has collected his washing from the line.
This is a reality, not so much things that after many years of public consultation, when finally put into practice require another few years of applications, discussion and false facts presented from all sides, are eventually totally drowned in red tape. Not my sort of fun.
The Neighbourhood Plan survey takes about 5 mins max, if you add comments. Not much of an investment of time is it?
As for people who ask when you will have to leave because of the referendum, I'm afraid it just shows what happens when people don't get involved enough to know what will really happen. No-one will be forced to leave, further immigration will be restricted. If they had given their full attention they would know that.
If people give their full attention to the NP we will have a better chance of determining that things happen in Sidmouth in a way we want. If we can't be bothered ( and I must admit my sister is one who finds it 'too difficult') then we get what other people impose on us.
On the question of how long the Drill Hall campaign has been going on, it is three years since they tried to demolish it. It looks like this year will be when we either succeed or fail in keeping it. After three years I would hope that people had learned a lot more about the building, but I suspect most haven't been bothered enough to visit either website about it. Once things are gone you can never get them back.
On the leaving or not topic, it's clear to anybody who thinks it through. Yet, just imagine yourself for one minute being asked such questions. (I do actually believe that immigration will not only not be restricted, but rather increased. The country needs it badly, a separate discussion really). We're leaving the EU because somebody betted his career on in/out and lost this bet.
Back to more local issues, it is frustrating or is it not that these processes take years on years on years for very little progress if any. Just the right damper for people to get involved, many see this as entirely pointless. It is about the people who never voice their opinion online, never come to meetings. Call it voice of doom, but do we have now the 1500 answers RS suggested?