Futures Forum: Knowle plans: 1970s building
and following the correspondence recorded on this entry
Futures Forum: "A truly green alternative to EDDC's proposal"
we have had this exchange:
From: PTwiss@eastdevon.gov.uk
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Subject: RE: Serious
questions over size of modern offices at Knowle
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:07:06 +0000
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:07:06 +0000
Dear Mr Fuller,
At the risk of
repeating myself from previous correspondence but for the benefit of those not
included in it; no solution has been put forward as to where and how EDDC would
operate during a major refurbishment or how it would be funded without
disadvantaging all residents in East Devon. Sale of the old hotel building would
not be sufficient to cover the costs of upgrading and refurbishment of the new
building and would be a far less attractive proposition to developers and
prospective purchasers of property for a number of reasons, not least having a
significant size employment site on their door
step.
Retro fitting to the
same energy efficiency levels as a new building would require further major
construction work and is simply not a practical or financially viable option.
Moving to a new energy efficient building would be cost neutral to the tax
payers of East Devon, refurbishing office accommodation at Knowle even with the
sale of other parts of the Knowle campus would not be cost
neutral.
The decision to
relocate (using evidence provided by highly experienced and qualified
professionals in their relevant field) has already been made. It now remains to
find a suitable site within East Devon once all options have been fully
considered.
As in our previous
correspondence we will have to agree to disagree on this issue and I have
nothing further to add to what has already been said.
Regards
Phil
Phil
Twiss
EDDC
Councillor
Honiton St Michael's
ward, Portfolio holder, Corporate Services
Telephone: 01404
891327
Twitter:
@philtwiss
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From:
Robin Fuller
Sent: 15 August 2013 19:58
To: Cllr Phillip Twiss; Cllr Michael Allen; Cllr David Atkins; Cllr R Bloxham; Cllr B Buxton; Cllr S Bond; Cllr R W Boote; Cllr P N Bowden; Cllr Peter Burrows; Cllr Derek Button; Cllr Geoffrey Chamberlain; Cllr David Chapman; Cllr Madeleine Chapman; Cllr I R Chubb; Cllr Trevor Cope; Cllr David Cox; Cllr Deborah Custance Baker; Cllr Alan Dent; paul@diviani.net; Cllr Mrs Christine Drew; Cllr Ms V B A Duval-Steer; Cllr Martin Gammell; Cllr Steven Gazzard; Cllr Roger Giles; Cllr G S Godbeer; Cllr Mrs Pat Graham; Cllr S Hall; Cllr Peter Halse; Cllr Tony Howard; Cllr Mike Howe; Cllr Stuart Hughes; Cllr Douglas Hull; Jill Humphreys; Cllr Ben Ingham; Cllr John Jeffery; Sandy Jones; Cllr Sheila Kerridge; Cllr David Key; Cllr J A Knight; Cllr Andrew Moulding; Cllr Mrs F I Newth; Cllr John O'Leary; Cllr Mrs Helen Parr; Cllr Geoff Pook; Cllr K C Potter; Cllr Philip Skinner; Cllr Mrs Pauline Stott; Cllr Peter Sullivan; Cllr Mrs Brenda Taylor; Cllr I Thomas; Cllr G M Troman; Cllr Christopher Wale; Cllr M Williamson; Cllr T J R Wood; Cllr Mrs E E Wragg; Cllr Stephen Wragg; Cllr Claire Wright; Cllr Thomas Wright
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Sent: 15 August 2013 19:58
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Subject: RE: Serious questions over size of modern offices at Knowle
Cllr Twiss
You have dismissed my
report using emotive language like ‘presumption’ and ‘guess work’ when I have
included a full description of rigorous methods and given data which were
calculated by an accredited architect using EDDC’s own plans.
You do not indicate by
what means and with what methods EDDC’s consultants have arrived at a different
answer. Do you have a description of their methods and a detailed breakdown of
the data supplied by Lister?
The government advises
Local Councils to refurbish rather than rebuild, as it is a better use of
taxpayers’ money. An important plank of your argument for rejecting that option
is the fact that the modern buildings will not meet the space requirements of
EDDC. Careful measurements suggest that your argument is incorrect.
As regards the greater
efficiency of new buildings, that would not apply if your modern offices were
properly retro-fitted to modern standards. Your published estimates on
refurbishment do not specify refurbishment of just those buildings which you
would require; they seem intentionally to mislead by costing the refurbishment
of all of Knowle – which puts a biased slant on what should be a genuinely fair
and open discussion.
I believe that your
own plans (which I include with my report) speak for themselves. A visual check
suggests that more than a quarter of Knowle comprises buildings just 30-35 years
old. I have underpinned that visual impression with carefully collected real
data, which confirm my belief.
We can only weigh the
merits of my data against Lister’s data if we can understand exactly what Lister
have measured and how. At the moment, we have only various opinions that Lister
are right.
Robin Fuller
From: PTwiss@eastdevon.gov.uk
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Subject: RE: Serious
questions over size of modern offices at Knowle
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:57:00 +0000
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:57:00 +0000
All,
I have been in
correspondence with Mr Fuller on and off since February of 2013 concerning his
estimate of available floor space at Knowle and would not want you to be misled
by the presumption that the floor space in the "modern" is "40% greater
than the figure used by
EDDC when it dismissed options for refurbishment of modern Knowle buildings"; it
isn't.
EDDC
have relied on the measurements taken for
the DEC and those by Thomas Lister who have both agreed .
EDDC Property Services are also content that the area advised is correct.
Excluding
where EDDC staff would be housed and the major disruption to services during any
refurbishment, together with the source of funding for it and notwithstanding
all the discussions about measurement and accuracy, the real issue is that the
existing Knowle buildings are not fit for purpose and that a full refurbishment
is required if they are to be.
This
includes reconfiguration of the internal layouts to remove cellular isolated
offices to an open plan integral easy accessible fully DDA compliant
environment. The cost of this refurbishment work, including the provision of the
additional floor area, is estimated to be in excess of not only the
independently estimated land asset values but also the further substantial costs
that EDDC would have been required to pay out over the next 20 years for annual
running costs for staying at Knowle as compared to a new purpose built office. A
refurbished 1980's office block does not even come close in energy efficiency
terms to a new purpose built building.
I
would not want guess work such as this detracting from the core effort of
providing EDDC with a new energy and cost efficient office for the benefit of
all in East Devon and remain completely bemused as to why some tax payers would
want EDDC to waste their hard earned money on refurbishment when
a better financial option is clearly the way forward.
Regards
Phil
Phil
Twiss
EDDC
Councillor
Honiton St Michael's
ward, Portfolio holder, Corporate Services
Telephone: 01404
891327
Twitter:
@philtwiss
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Sent: 15 August 2013 16:06
To: Cllr Michael Allen; Cllr David Atkins; Cllr R Bloxham; Cllr B Buxton; Cllr S Bond; Cllr R W Boote; Cllr P N Bowden; Cllr Peter Burrows; Cllr Derek Button; Cllr Geoffrey Chamberlain; Cllr David Chapman; Cllr Madeleine Chapman; Cllr I R Chubb; Cllr Trevor Cope; Cllr David Cox; Cllr Deborah Custance Baker; Cllr Alan Dent; paul@diviani.net; Cllr Mrs Christine Drew; Cllr Ms V B A Duval-Steer; Cllr Martin Gammell; Cllr Steven Gazzard; Cllr Roger Giles; Cllr G S Godbeer; Cllr Mrs Pat Graham; Cllr S Hall; Cllr Peter Halse; Cllr Tony Howard; Cllr Mike Howe; Cllr Stuart Hughes; Cllr Douglas Hull; Jill Humphreys; Cllr Ben Ingham; Cllr John Jeffery; Sandy Jones; Cllr Sheila Kerridge; Cllr David Key; Cllr J A Knight; Cllr Andrew Moulding; Cllr Mrs F I Newth; Cllr John O'Leary; Cllr Mrs Helen Parr; Cllr Geoff Pook; Cllr K C Potter; Cllr Philip Skinner; Cllr Mrs Pauline Stott; Cllr Peter Sullivan; Cllr Mrs Brenda Taylor; Cllr I Thomas; Cllr G M Troman; Cllr Phillip Twiss; Cllr Christopher Wale; Cllr M Williamson; Cllr T J R Wood; Cllr Mrs E E Wragg; Cllr Stephen Wragg; Cllr Claire Wright; Cllr Thomas Wright
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Sent: 15 August 2013 16:06
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Subject: Serious questions over size of modern offices at Knowle
To all EDDC
Councillors and Sidmouth Town Councillors
I attach a very brief paper (knowle floorspace paper 2.doc) to draw your attention to what I consider to be serious flaws in EDDC's argument that the space in the modern, purpose-built offices at Knowle is insufficient for EDDC's future needs.
I believe the floorspace in the modern offices is 40% greater than the figure used by EDDC when it dismissed options for refurbishment of modern Knowle buildings.
I ask you to read the paper and consider for yourselves whether EDDC's proposals to move continue to make sense. I don't think they do.
Robin Fuller
I attach a very brief paper (knowle floorspace paper 2.doc) to draw your attention to what I consider to be serious flaws in EDDC's argument that the space in the modern, purpose-built offices at Knowle is insufficient for EDDC's future needs.
I believe the floorspace in the modern offices is 40% greater than the figure used by EDDC when it dismissed options for refurbishment of modern Knowle buildings.
I ask you to read the paper and consider for yourselves whether EDDC's proposals to move continue to make sense. I don't think they do.
Robin Fuller
Here is the paper (knowle floorspace paper 2.doc)
including drawings supplied by the District Council:
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